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Started by JCostaThePro, April 30, 2013, 08:01:29 AM

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JCostaThePro

This certainly was a cool week, Tim. It's very weird that 1046 & 1048 were the only episodes of the week that ended with the trolley episode number ID. I had thought for a long time that it was only 1271 that was the one post-68 episode that never reran (or at least existed in association with) the trolley bumper. In fact, i'm beginning to wonder if 1046-1050 ended before 1031-1035, 1041-1045 and 1061-1065 did (even though it's not a "banned" week, like 1036-1040, 1051-1060 and 1071-1075 are said to be). But at least this may partially answer the question about production dates for the 1969 episodes. While most of that information is unknown, it's established that:

1047- 3/20/69
1049- 3/14/69
1050- 3/26/69.

I still find it fascinating that 1047 was shot on Rogers' birthday. So he didn't mind working on his birthday? Interesting, i guess.
Well, please keep up the good work on the Archive! I wish you luck in covering 1051-1054.


mitsguy2001

Quote from: JCostaThePro on April 30, 2013, 08:01:29 AM
This certainly was a cool week, Tim. It's very weird that 1046 & 1048 were the only episodes of the week that ended with the trolley episode number ID. I had thought for a long time that it was only 1271 that was the one post-68 episode that never reran (or at least existed in association with) the trolley bumper.

I'm sure that all of these episodes do exist with the trolley bumper, but for whatever reason, the print that Tim obtained was from the original episode.  In the case of 1271, we know that it reran Mar. 4, 1985; Aug. 31, 1987; and and July 15, 1991, so it must have had the trolley bumper.  For whatever reason, the version on Amazon is the original version without the trolley bumper.

QuoteIn fact, i'm beginning to wonder if 1046-1050 ended before 1031-1035, 1041-1045 and 1061-1065 did (even though it's not a "banned" week, like 1036-1040, 1051-1060 and 1071-1075 are said to be).

That I seriously doubt.  Remember, if 1046 and 1048 reran with the trolley bumper, they obviosly reran, so the entire week had to have rerun.  Also, the "banned" weeks were not only omitted from the Plan and Play book, but they are also omitted in the catalog on the Fred Rogers Center website where Fred listed thoughts for each week.  Since the Plan and Play book was first published in 1983, I'm sure that every week included in the book was rerun during the previous run of 1969 episodes (which was likely in 1981).

JCostaThePro

Quote from: mitsguy2001 on April 30, 2013, 11:10:14 AM
QuoteIn fact, i'm beginning to wonder if 1046-1050 ended before 1031-1035, 1041-1045 and 1061-1065 did (even though it's not a "banned" week, like 1036-1040, 1051-1060 and 1071-1075 are said to be).

That I seriously doubt.  Remember, if 1046 and 1048 reran with the trolley bumper, they obviosly reran, so the entire week had to have rerun.  Also, the "banned" weeks were not only omitted from the Plan and Play book, but they are also omitted in the catalog on the Fred Rogers Center website where Fred listed thoughts for each week.  Since the Plan and Play book was first published in 1983, I'm sure that every week included in the book was rerun during the previous run of 1969 episodes (which was likely in 1981).

No, i guess you're right. I just thought that since it's assumed that 1036-1040, 1051-1060 and 1071-1075 may not have last aired in the same cycle. I thought that was the same for 1031-1035, 1041-1050 and 1061-1065. I wonder why those weeks last aired so early too, even though they aren't part of the "banned" weeks? Just a matter of making room for the newer episodes (i.e., Work), i guess? I wonder if that also maybe one of the likely reasons why 1396-1400, 1411-1420 and 1441-1445 couldn't continue to air. Again, just a thought.

mitsguy2001

Quote from: JCostaThePro on April 30, 2013, 08:01:29 AM
I still find it fascinating that 1047 was shot on Rogers' birthday. So he didn't mind working on his birthday? Interesting, i guess.
Well, please keep up the good work on the Archive! I wish you luck in covering 1051-1054.

What is so fascinating about that?  Everybody works on their birthday (unless their birthday is Jan. 1, July 4, or Dec. 25).

Neighborhood Archive

Quote from: JCostaThePro on April 30, 2013, 08:01:29 AM
I still find it fascinating that 1047 was shot on Rogers' birthday. So he didn't mind working on his birthday? Interesting, i guess.

I find this interesting as well. If for no other reason just knowing that was filmed on his birthday. Everybody feels a little different when it's their birthday. It's fun watching this knowing that it was shot on a day Fred was feeling extra special.

mitsguy2001

What is more surprising is that an episode was shot on Memorial Day: Episode 93 was shot on May 30, 1968.  At the time, Memorial Day was always May 30 (in 1971, it was moved to the last Monday in May).  I wonder if maybe in Pennsynvania it could have been moved to Monday earlier than it was nationally, or if when Memorial Day was May 30 if it wasn't as big a holiday as the current first Monday of May is.

JCostaThePro

70 was also shot on his birthday.

JCostaThePro

Quote from: mitsguy2001 on April 30, 2013, 11:10:14 AM
Since the Plan and Play book was first published in 1983, I'm sure that every week included in the book was rerun during the previous run of 1969 episodes (which was likely in 1981).

But the thing that confuses me is that i read somewhere on this forum that it was possible that one of the banned weeks aired in 1981, when we think 1031-1035, 1041-1045, this and 1061-1065 may've last-aired. How can one pre-79 week simply last-air as casually as most other MRN episodes did and another be banned if they both aired the same year?

mitsguy2001

Quote from: JCostaThePro on May 26, 2013, 01:40:43 AM
Quote from: mitsguy2001 on April 30, 2013, 11:10:14 AM
Since the Plan and Play book was first published in 1983, I'm sure that every week included in the book was rerun during the previous run of 1969 episodes (which was likely in 1981).

But the thing that confuses me is that i read somewhere on this forum that it was possible that one of the banned weeks aired in 1981, when we think 1031-1035, 1041-1045, this and 1061-1065 may've last-aired. How can one pre-79 week simply last-air as casually as most other MRN episodes did and another be banned if they both aired the same year?

It is not confirmed that any banned weeks aired in 1981.  Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.