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21 years ago today .....
« on: August 09, 2012, 10:12:19 PM »
The last beige walled episode aired, 1290! It was as blue as every wall colored episode to air after that that such a classic wall color for the studio never aired again. And the other sad thing it was the last time the pre-79s aired pretty much chronologically. After the 1991 pre-79 run ended, the 1992 one began 39 weeks later with 1351. 1351 - 1355 aired, then 1356 - 1360, but it wasn't 1361 - 1365 after that; that didn't air til the 1993 pre-79 run kicked off. Two big mysteries though lie here. I could maybe understand how kids seeing beige walls 18 years after they were painted blue being a bit much, but here are the two mysteries: The last beige walled episode (or rather episode from a full week of beige walls and no mention of them being painted) was the 1973 season finale, 1325, so why couldn't they just air those last 7 weeks before not airing a beige walled episode ever again? And the second mystery is if the reason why they couldn't air beige walled episodes ever again, why start at 1351 and not 1336? (and for the record, the reason why I say 1336, not 1326, is because in 1326 - 1327, the walls are painted (they're in the process of being painted in 1326, then complete, with the explanation of them being painted, in 1327), and not 1331 because 1326 - 1330 carries over to 1331 - 1335 because of the circus in 1330 mentioned as happening "next week", and I think I heard something in the NOMB as well. I can't think of any set change or any other kind of change between 1350 and 1351. Here's how I think they should have handled the 1992 - 1995 pre-79 runs. I'll list first what actually did air, and then what I believe should have aired instead:

1992 (May 11 - Aug. 7):
What did air:
May 11 - 22: 1351 - 1360
May 25 - June 26: 1366 - 1390
June 29 - July 24: 1421 - 1440
July 27 - Aug. 7: 1446 - 1455 (1441 - 1445 never aired after 1988 for some mysterious reason)

What should have aired:
May 11 - July 10: 1291 - 1335 (air the last of the beige walled episodes, showed them painted blue to prepare kids, and not break a carryover)
July 13 - Aug. 7: 1351 - 1370 (okay, if for whatever reason they didn't want to air 1336 - 1350, fine, jump ahead to 1351 as they actually did. And there's no 1370/1371 carryover, which we know since there was an interruption there in 1985)

1993 (May 31 - Aug. 13)
What did air:
May 31 - June 4: 1361 - 1365
June 7 - 18: 1386 - 1395 (1386 - 1390 aired in all pre-79 runs from 1992 - 1995 for some mysterious reason, even though it breaks a carryover)
June 21 - July 2: 1411 - 1420 (1396 - 1400 never aired after 1988 for some mysterious reason)
July 5 - 30: 1421 - 1440
Aug. 2 - 13: 1446 - 1445

What should have aired:
May 31 - July 2: 1371 - 1395
July 5 - 16: 1401 - 1410 (okay if for some reason they didn't want to air 1391 - 1395, fine)
July 19 - Aug. 13: 1421 - 1440 (that's perfectly okay, since as I said, 1441 - 1445 never aired after 1988 while 1436 - 1440 did, so there's no 1440/1441 carryover

1994 (July 4 - Aug. 12)
What did air:
July 4 - 8: 1386 - 1390
July 11 - 15: 1431 - 1435
July 18 - 22: 1421 - 1425 (yes, those two weeks aired backwards, and that never happened except if they had to interrupt for a post-75 run or Starting School airing at a time they'd be breaking a carryover, although the reason why is somewhat understandable -- 1421 - 1425 carries over to 1426 - 1430 (I haven't seen these weeks, except for 1425, in recent years, so I don't remember them but from what I gather, after 1425, the opera, Reardon can't leave, and 1426 - 1430 sort of carries over to 1431 - 1435 since 1426 - 1430 is about not being able to travel while 1431 - 1435 is about moving, and if those two weeks aired in order, it could be confusing to see the moving without the not being able to travel, while seeing the moving and before, an episode with Reardon in the NOMB, it would be less confusing, and I'm starting to think that Reardon's not being able to leave the NOMB is mentioned in 1421 - 1424, especially 1424).
July 25 - 29: 1436 - 1440
Aug. 1 - 12: 1446 - 1455

What should have aired:
July 4 - 8: 1386 - 1390 (even though it would make sense to start with 1446, with only two weeks left of pre-79s, repeating after this is fine, and okay, if they were so obsessed with 1386 - 1390, okay, let that be a week that keeps airing, even despite the carryover. And interestingly enough, it would be what actually did air that week)
July 11 - Aug. 5: 1421 - 1440
Aug. 8 - 12: 1446 - 1450

1995 (Aug. 7 - 11):
What did air:
Aug. 7 - 11: 1386 - 1390
What should have aired:
Aug. 7 - 11: 1451 - 1455 (no matter what, 1455 should have been the last to air, since 1456 - 1460 can't air without 1001 or 1066, and 1455 was originally going to be the pre-79 (and series) finale.

What do you all think of this schedule that they should have had?
Nicky

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Re: 21 years ago today .....
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2012, 11:23:37 AM »
July 11 - 15: 1431 - 1435
July 18 - 22: 1421 - 1425 (yes, those two weeks aired backwards, and that never happened except if they had to interrupt for a post-75 run or Starting School airing at a time they'd be breaking a carryover, although the reason why is somewhat understandable -- 1421 - 1425 carries over to 1426 - 1430 (I haven't seen these weeks, except for 1425, in recent years, so I don't remember them but from what I gather, after 1425, the opera, Reardon can't leave, and 1426 - 1430 sort of carries over to 1431 - 1435 since 1426 - 1430 is about not being able to travel while 1431 - 1435 is about moving, and if those two weeks aired in order, it could be confusing to see the moving without the not being able to travel, while seeing the moving and before, an episode with Reardon in the NOMB, it would be less confusing, and I'm starting to think that Reardon's not being able to leave the NOMB is mentioned in 1421 - 1424, especially 1424).

Reversing those 2 weeks I don't think had anything to do with a carryover.  Why would reversing them help?  What I think happened was probably they had originally intended for an earlier week (Somewhere between 1391-1395 and 1416-1420) to air July 11-15.  And, for whatever reason, that week was pulled from the schedule at the last minute, and they maybe decided to air 1431-1435 instead, and didn't want to completely change the whole schedule.  There were other schedules in the past where it appears that weeks were reversed at the last minute (Divorce and No and Yes in 1985-86, Secrets and Helping in 1996-97) but they didn't want to completely change the schedule.

The other (less likely) possibility is that maybe for whatever reason, they wanted one of the 1431-1435 or 1421-1425 episodes to air on a specific day (maybe someone's birthday) or to not air on a specific day (maybe to avoid Supreme Court confirmation hearings).

The only way to know for sure would have been if someone asked FCI back then why they were reversed.  But there is no chance that anybody would remember now.  As far as we know, nobody asked, so we shall never know.

What makes no sense to me is why they suddenly stopped airing the beige walled weeks in 1992.  Even if people thought they were too old, would it have killed them to air them just for one more year, so that they could have aired a full cycle?

What amazes me about your post is that people who were never alive for a beige walled episode are now old enough to drink!

As for skipping 1361-1365 in 1992: I think that they decided that all of 1421-1455 (except 1441-1445) had to air as a package, or maybe they wanted 1425 to air on July 3 (Friday of 4th of July weekend, which is a popular beach weekend).

As for skipping 1331-1350 and never airing then again: probably for the same reason that 1396-1400, 1411-1420, and 1441-1445 didn't air: for whatever reason, those weeks just didn't make the cut.
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Re: 21 years ago today .....
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 11:41:45 AM »
Reversing those 2 weeks I don't think had anything to do with a carryover.  Why would reversing them help?  

Maybe they felt like with 1421 - 1435 one big story arc and with 1426 - 1430 not able to air after 1993 for whatever reason while 1421 - 1425 and 1431 - 1435 needing to air, 1431 would be less confusing not immediately after 1425 or 1425 less confusing not immediately before 1431. Also don't forget, the 1430/1431 carryover was avoided in 1988 - 1989 with 1436 - 1445 before 1421 - 1435.


What I think happened was probably they had originally intended for an earlier week (Somewhere between 1391-1395 and 1416-1420) to air July 11-15.  And, for whatever reason, that week was pulled from the schedule at the last minute, and they maybe decided to air 1431-1435 instead, and didn't want to completely change the whole schedule.  

That makes sense, although I don't think it was last minute since it was on the schedules Hedda sent me, which I'm sure came out in May or June 1993.

There were other schedules in the past where it appears that weeks were reversed at the last minute (Divorce and No and Yes in 1985-86,

That could make sense, since maybe they didn't know when they made the schedule in May or June 1985 that the debut would be Families with Betty Okonak Templeton and James Michael Jones adopting the baby and therefore they'd need to show the wedding a few weeks before to remind kids who they are (and No & Yes have always, even when proper position weeks stopped, aired a few weeks before Families, never more than 7 weeks). And it would explain why they were switched rather than just treating it as a proper position week with Divorce airing Nov. 11 - 15 in its proper position. Although it does make me wonder why it wasn't instead switched with Bubbleland, since if they weren't switched, Bubbleland and Divorce would air in backwards order. Although Bubbleland has often moved to the first full week in November (and 1475 never aired in or out of proper position on Nov. 1), and Bubbleland never aired in February.

Secrets and Helping in 1996-97)

I don't see Secrets and Helping in 1996 - 97 as a last minute (or later than May or June 1996) switch, since I see no reason for Helping to air out of proper position in November (although it did, but later, even though only a year later)

The other (less likely) possibility is that maybe for whatever reason, they wanted one of the 1431-1435 or 1421-1425 episodes to air on a specific day (maybe someone's birthday)

That seems very unlikely, since we know most cast members' birthdays. If any episode was to accommodate someone's birthday, it would be 1425, and none is July 22. Although of the cast members in the opera, we don't know Joe Negri, Audrey Roth, Chuck Aber, or Maggie Stewart's birthdays. Maybe one is July 22.

or to not air on a specific day (maybe to avoid Supreme Court confirmation hearings).

That makes sense, especially for an episode as major as 1425.

The only way to know for sure would have been if someone asked FCI back then why they were reversed.  But there is no chance that anybody would remember now.  As far as we know, nobody asked, so we shall never know.

I actually did ask Hedda, and indeed she didn't know.

What makes no sense to me is why they suddenly stopped airing the beige walled weeks in 1992.  Even if people thought they were too old, would it have killed them to air them just for one more year, so that they could have aired a full cycle?

Yes, and just 7 weeks!

What amazes me about your post is that people who were never alive for a beige walled episode are now old enough to drink!

Only those born Aug. 9 - 14, 1991, of which there aren't many.

As for skipping 1361-1365 in 1992: I think that they decided that all of 1421-1455 (except 1441-1445) had to air as a package,

And later, except for 1426 - 1430. But there are other ways they could have done that and still kept the package. Although it's true they couldn't have started with 1356, because of the 1355/1356 carryover.

or maybe they wanted 1425 to air on July 3 (Friday of 4th of July weekend, which is a popular beach weekend).

And following the tradition of the opera the Friday before a holiday. But that they definitely could have done in other ways.


As for skipping 1331-1350

You mean 1336 - 1350 because of the 1330/1331 carryover.

and never airing then again: probably for the same reason that 1396-1400, 1411-1420, and 1441-1445 didn't air: for whatever reason, those weeks just didn't make the cut.

That makes the most sense for that explanation.
Nicky

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Re: 21 years ago today .....
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 10:36:23 PM »
Or, for 1992, air at least one ecru-walled week (1291-1295, 1296-1300, 1306-1310 or 1316-1320 could be it), then air 1326-1335, then the rest of the 1974 weeks could continue from 1341 (1336-1340 could be skipped for whatever reason, but 1346-1350 can't air without 1341-1345 since 1345 has the unveiling of the King Monday IX statue, which is seen 1346 and 1347) until School airs.