Author Topic: What's the Difference?  (Read 21968 times)

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Re: What's the Difference?
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2013, 04:27:50 AM »
One other thing, I believe starting in 1988 we see a new font for the credits.

Also, starting with (i think) the Secrets week 1596-1600, the episode numbers are seen at the end of each episode as well as the beginning.

A few other notable differences throughout the neighborhood: in earlier post-75 episodes and several later pre-79s, the camera could zoom down towards the street right near the block of the bakery, music shop and theater (which is why on a lot of episodes, if you look at the screenshots, the camera often parked near the top of the tall red apartment building instead of just near it). The addition of the HO scale trolley sorta prevented this in later episodes. Also, in earlier episodes, the farm was near to the other side of the street and during the outro you could occasionally see cows and/or horses in the gate.

Also, another obvious difference in the pre-79s was Rogers wearing more sweaters than he owned later on. Strangely however, in many of the oldest episodes that aired, the sweater trdition was not yet common. He would sometimes wear a sweater only once or twice a week. Among the rarely-seen sweaters he wore were a weird-looking Vandyke brown/banana yellow one (in 1022) and a midnight blue zipper one with bisque trim (1085).

Also, in regards to differences between the 1969 and 1970 episodes: if you look carefully at the screenshots, the NET building looks a little different. I'm not sure if it's just the camera angle/lighting or not, but the whole building looks somewhat taller and skinnier, the roof looks paler and the "N" looks more maroon-ish.

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Re: What's the Difference?
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2013, 11:54:14 AM »
Also, in regards to differences between the 1969 and 1970 episodes: if you look carefully at the screenshots, the NET building looks a little different. I'm not sure if it's just the camera angle/lighting or not, but the whole building looks somewhat taller and skinnier, the roof looks paler and the "N" looks more maroon-ish.

Actually, I have been told that 1066-1070 has the NET building (and traffic light) from the 1969 season.  It was changed in either 1071 or 1076; I know 1076 has the new ones.  I tried asking Tim if 1071-1075 has the new traffic light (and the new NET building) but he didn't seem interested in answering.  Tim: if you are reading this, can you please let us know if the new NET buiding debuted in 1071 or 1076?  Thanks.

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Re: What's the Difference?
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2013, 09:44:09 AM »
Also, in regards to differences between the 1969 and 1970 episodes: if you look carefully at the screenshots, the NET building looks a little different. I'm not sure if it's just the camera angle/lighting or not, but the whole building looks somewhat taller and skinnier, the roof looks paler and the "N" looks more maroon-ish.

Actually, I have been told that 1066-1070 has the NET building (and traffic light) from the 1969 season.  It was changed in either 1071 or 1076; I know 1076 has the new ones.  I tried asking Tim if 1071-1075 has the new traffic light (and the new NET building) but he didn't seem interested in answering.  Tim: if you are reading this, can you please let us know if the new NET buiding debuted in 1071 or 1076?  Thanks.


The new NET building seems to appear in 1066, the end of 1068 and 1069 and 1071, but the old one does appear on 1067, the beginning of 1068 and 1069, 1072, 1074 and 1075.

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Re: What's the Difference?
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2013, 12:20:59 PM »
Also, in regards to differences between the 1969 and 1970 episodes: if you look carefully at the screenshots, the NET building looks a little different. I'm not sure if it's just the camera angle/lighting or not, but the whole building looks somewhat taller and skinnier, the roof looks paler and the "N" looks more maroon-ish.

Actually, I have been told that 1066-1070 has the NET building (and traffic light) from the 1969 season.  It was changed in either 1071 or 1076; I know 1076 has the new ones.  I tried asking Tim if 1071-1075 has the new traffic light (and the new NET building) but he didn't seem interested in answering.  Tim: if you are reading this, can you please let us know if the new NET buiding debuted in 1071 or 1076?  Thanks.


The new NET building seems to appear in 1066, the end of 1068 and 1069 and 1071, but the old one does appear on 1067, the beginning of 1068 and 1069, 1072, 1074 and 1075.

Then there is no correlation between the NET building and the traffic light, since I know for sure that 1066 has the old traffic light.

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Re: What's the Difference?
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2013, 08:54:16 AM »
Also, in regards to differences between the 1969 and 1970 episodes: if you look carefully at the screenshots, the NET building looks a little different. I'm not sure if it's just the camera angle/lighting or not, but the whole building looks somewhat taller and skinnier, the roof looks paler and the "N" looks more maroon-ish.

Actually, I have been told that 1066-1070 has the NET building (and traffic light) from the 1969 season.  It was changed in either 1071 or 1076; I know 1076 has the new ones.  I tried asking Tim if 1071-1075 has the new traffic light (and the new NET building) but he didn't seem interested in answering.  Tim: if you are reading this, can you please let us know if the new NET buiding debuted in 1071 or 1076?  Thanks.


The new NET building seems to appear in 1066, the end of 1068 and 1069 and 1071, but the old one does appear on 1067, the beginning of 1068 and 1069, 1072, 1074 and 1075.

Then there is no correlation between the NET building and the traffic light, since I know for sure that 1066 has the old traffic light.


I think the inconsistency here is just a matter of them using previously shot video for the intro and/or credits on those specific episodes.  Actually, if I remember correctly from 1066, most of the credits have the 1969 models and literally as the shot is panning to the NET building, there is a quick cut to a shot of the building from how it appeared after that week.  You almost see both versions of the building for a brief second.  The major difference I've always noticed between the 1969 and 1970 models is that the 1969 ones had gray looking hills in the background and the 1970 models had more greenery all over including trees/bushes where the hills were before.
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Re: What's the Difference?
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2013, 11:09:37 AM »
Also, in regards to differences between the 1969 and 1970 episodes: if you look carefully at the screenshots, the NET building looks a little different. I'm not sure if it's just the camera angle/lighting or not, but the whole building looks somewhat taller and skinnier, the roof looks paler and the "N" looks more maroon-ish.

Actually, I have been told that 1066-1070 has the NET building (and traffic light) from the 1969 season.  It was changed in either 1071 or 1076; I know 1076 has the new ones.  I tried asking Tim if 1071-1075 has the new traffic light (and the new NET building) but he didn't seem interested in answering.  Tim: if you are reading this, can you please let us know if the new NET buiding debuted in 1071 or 1076?  Thanks.


The new NET building seems to appear in 1066, the end of 1068 and 1069 and 1071, but the old one does appear on 1067, the beginning of 1068 and 1069, 1072, 1074 and 1075.

Then there is no correlation between the NET building and the traffic light, since I know for sure that 1066 has the old traffic light.


I think the inconsistency here is just a matter of them using previously shot video for the intro and/or credits on those specific episodes.  Actually, if I remember correctly from 1066, most of the credits have the 1969 models and literally as the shot is panning to the NET building, there is a quick cut to a shot of the building from how it appeared after that week.  You almost see both versions of the building for a brief second.  The major difference I've always noticed between the 1969 and 1970 models is that the 1969 ones had gray looking hills in the background and the 1970 models had more greenery all over including trees/bushes where the hills were before.

Interesting.  That makes me think that the opening and closing credits were re-shot, maybe to add or delete certain credits, or maybe in 1976 when the trolley closing was added.

Does all of 1066-1070 have the old traffic light?  I know for sure 1066 has it, but I'm not sure about after that.  Also, (probably only Tim can answer this): what version of the traffic light does 1071-1075 have?  Thanks.

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Re: What's the Difference?
« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2013, 11:43:23 AM »
I'm not sure about all this, but i don't think Tim wants us making so many quotes.

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Re: What's the Difference?
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2013, 12:21:24 PM »
Quotes are fine. They just clutter things up a bit. I'll try and answer the questions about the traffic light as soon as I get a chance.

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Re: What's the Difference?
« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2013, 09:25:36 PM »
Here are screenshots of the traffic light from 1071-1075










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Re: What's the Difference?
« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2013, 01:24:42 PM »
Thanks for posting those.  I can't really tell whether those are the old or new traffic lights, since the angle doesn't really show the depth of the visors.

Maybe to make it easier to compare, can you post a picture of the traffic light from an episode that we know has the "old" traffic light (1066-1070, or anything from the 1969 season) and a picture from an episode that we know has the "new" traffic light (1076 or later).  Or, can you direct me to a picture of the traffic light that is already posted from an "old" and "new" episode?  Thanks.

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Re: What's the Difference?
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2016, 03:20:53 PM »
In Post 79 each week has topic that Fred would stick to throughout that week, in pre 79 some weeks have topic for example episodes 1-5 is change, but episodes 6-15 don't have topics then in episodes 16-20 the topic is welcoming Donkey Hoodie.

In post 79 all the shows end with "It's such a good feeling" and "The Weekend Song", 50% of the shows in pre 79 end with "Tomorrow"

In Post 79 rarely used characters one of those rarely used ones was Grandpere.

A lot of pre 79 songs weren't used that often like "A lonely kind of thing" and "When a baby comes" it surprised me that he would sing "I think I'm going to like today" after all those years though.