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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #165 on: May 24, 2013, 09:49:39 AM »
Too bad Alike & Different, the week with the circus visit, was never an annual occasion week or aired on a holiday.

It did air the Friday after Thanksgiving in 1987 and after Independence Day in 2002, but that's not too significant.

(it also aired the week after John Costa's death in 1996, but that's only because it was proper position airing...)

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #166 on: May 27, 2013, 01:06:01 AM »
Too bad Alike & Different, the week with the circus visit, was never an annual occasion week or aired on a holiday.

It did air the Friday after Thanksgiving in 1987 and after Independence Day in 2002, but that's not too significant.

(it also aired the week after John Costa's death in 1996, but that's only because it was proper position airing...)

What holiday do you want it to air for?

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #167 on: May 27, 2013, 01:09:55 AM »
Too bad Alike & Different, the week with the circus visit, was never an annual occasion week or aired on a holiday.

It did air the Friday after Thanksgiving in 1987 and after Independence Day in 2002, but that's not too significant.

(it also aired the week after John Costa's death in 1996, but that's only because it was proper position airing...)

What holiday do you want it to air for?

Well, not so much a holiday necessarily. I just thought it would've been appropriate for a day or week when kids are out of school because of the circus visit in 1585.

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #168 on: May 27, 2013, 11:20:20 PM »
Too bad Alike & Different, the week with the circus visit, was never an annual occasion week or aired on a holiday.

It did air the Friday after Thanksgiving in 1987 and after Independence Day in 2002, but that's not too significant.

(it also aired the week after John Costa's death in 1996, but that's only because it was proper position airing...)

What holiday do you want it to air for?

Well, not so much a holiday necessarily. I just thought it would've been appropriate for a day or week when kids are out of school because of the circus visit in 1585.

Both of those airings that you mentioned (as well as others) would have been when schools were closed.  Almost all schools are closed the Friday after Thanksgiving, and almost all schools would have ended for the summer before July 5.

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #169 on: July 07, 2013, 06:29:46 PM »
Something else interesting i noticed about this sceduele.

What few times we know 1441-1445 aired, it never aired back-to-back with 1446-1450. When it aired in 1986, 1286-1290, 1296-1300 and Celebrations all aired in between and when it aired in 1988 (the last time it aired) it was at the end of the pre-79 run that year. Also, apparently, it couldn't have aired back-to-back with it in 1983 because we know Conflict was followed by 1446-1450, which means 1441-1445 aired sometime earlier.

I guess since 1446-1460 is one long story arc and there wasn't a 1445/1446 carryover, they thought it could air away from 1446 at anytime.

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #170 on: July 12, 2013, 09:08:32 AM »
I know this is my first post on the forum, but I've been following this site for a long time... I was the one that provided the information on the pre-national episodes, culled from some various research.

I've managed to get access to some of the stuff that's been digitized in the Fred Rogers Archive (only documents, no video clips).  The only airdate schedule I could find is for part of 1969 and 1970, and a good chunk of it doesn't match up with what's posted here at all.  (Episodes #001-005, for instance, were not repeated in 1969 according to that document.) I'll try to see if I can post some of the info from it here.

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #171 on: July 12, 2013, 09:43:54 AM »
Thanks. I am looking forward to seeing that schedule info. I am on vacation so I won't be responding much the next week but I look forward to seeing it when I return. How were you able to access it?

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #172 on: July 12, 2013, 11:10:22 AM »
I know this is my first post on the forum, but I've been following this site for a long time... I was the one that provided the information on the pre-national episodes, culled from some various research.

I've managed to get access to some of the stuff that's been digitized in the Fred Rogers Archive (only documents, no video clips).  The only airdate schedule I could find is for part of 1969 and 1970, and a good chunk of it doesn't match up with what's posted here at all.  (Episodes #001-005, for instance, were not repeated in 1969 according to that document.) I'll try to see if I can post some of the info from it here.

Something else that doesn't seem to match this sceduele. There were several 1975 weeks that supposedly aired March 30-April 24, 1981 1391-1410, but this sceduele has 1381-1400 airing those weeks. The theory posted here is because allegedly Bubbleland and Superheroes repeated after the premiere of Divorce, but since it's two weeks early, that couldn't have happened.

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #173 on: July 12, 2013, 04:51:12 PM »
Here's the 1969-1970 info I've found.  Not every week is listed, (the document starts with May 1969) and the episode numbers listed are the original numbers going past #130, but for simplicity, I've converted them to the #1xxx numbers we're more used to.

1969:
May 1-2: #1059-1060
May 5-9: #1061-1065
May 12-16: #0006-0010
May 19-23: #0011-0015
May 26-30: #0016-0020
June 2-6: #0021-0025
June 9-13: #0026-0030
June 16-20: #0031-0035
June 23-27: #0036-0040
June 30-July 4: #0041-0045
July 7-11: #0046-0050
July 14-18: #0051-0055
July 21-25: #0056-0060
July 28-31: #0061-0064 (No show is listed on August 1)
August 4-8: #0065-0068, 0070 (#0069 is apparently skipped over)
August 11-15: #0076-0080
August 25-29: #0081-0085
September 1-5: #0086-0090
September 8-12: #0091-0095
September 15-19: #0096-0100
September 22-26: #0101-0105
September 29-October 3: #0106-0110
October 6-10: #0111-0115
October 13-17: #0116-0120
October 20-24: #0121-0125
October 27-31: #0126-0130
November 3-7: #1001-1005
November 10-14: #1006-1010
November 17-21: #1011-1015
November 24-28: #1016-1020
December 1-5: #1021-1025
December 8-12: #1026-1030
December 15-19: #1031-1035
December 22-26: #1036-1040
December 29-January 2, 1970: #1041-1045

1970:
January 5-9: #1046-1050
January 12-16: #1051-1055
January 19-23: #1056-1060
January 26-30: #1061-1065
February 2-6: #1066-1070
February 9-13: #1071-1075
February 16-20: #1076-1080
February 23-27: #1081-1085
March 2-6: #1086-1090
March 9-13: #1091-1095
March 16-20: #1096-1100
March 23-27: #1101-1105
March 30-April 3: #1106-1110
April 6-10: #1111-1115
April 13-17: #1116-1120
April 20-24: #1121-1125
April 27-May 1: #1126-1130
(No listings for May 1970, but we can assume repeats of some of the earliest B&W weeks aired)
June 1-5: #0046-0050
June 8-12: #0056-0060
June 15-19: #0081-0085
June 22-26: #0086-0090
June 29-July 3: #0091-0095
July 6-July 10: #0096-0100
July 13-17: #0101-0105
July 20-24: #0106-0110
July 27-31: #0111-0115
August 3-7: #0121-0125
August 10-14: #0126-0130
August 17-21: #1001-1005
August 24-28: #1006-1010
August 31: #1011

And unfortunately, that's as far as it goes.

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #174 on: July 12, 2013, 05:16:45 PM »
That's awesome, snowpeck. Also, rather fittingly, the sceduele shows the royal wedding episode airing the Friday before Thanksgiving and an opera (Babysitter aka 45) airing on the 4th of July! And even greater, the 1997 national sceduele shows the Betty Okanak Templeton wedding episode (No & Yes 1545) airing on that day as well!

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #175 on: July 12, 2013, 08:41:07 PM »
Thanks for posting that! I wonder if 1-5 never reran after its first airing. This also means that if after Aug. 31, 1970 everything ran in order, 1130 reran Feb 12, 1971 and then the next season started, which makes sense.

I wonder how they decided which 1968 episodes aired during the summer of 1970. I wonder if 1-5 aired in May 1970 or not. I'm guessing 45 aired on May 29, 1970.

I also wonder what aired that would have caused MRN to be preempted nationally on Aug 1, 1969. That is strange. I also wonder if 69 was banned since it didn't air in 1970 either.

I won't have free wifi after tonight so I probably can't respond for the next week but I look forward to finding out more info when I return. Thanks again. How did you find this info?

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #176 on: July 13, 2013, 12:16:29 AM »
Thanks snowpeck for posting all this - really fascinating stuff.   This does seem to confirm that in between new seasons, they'd go back and rerun about three seasons' worth of shows.   I'd guess that from February 15, 1971 through at least February 20, 1976, the schedule posted at the beginning of this thread is accurate, since during those years there were just enough weeks between seasons to rerun exactly 195 episodes.  So in all likelihood, the B&W episodes probably saw their last airings in the summer of 1970.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that episodes 1-5 were never rerun.  We now know that it was the only B&W week that didn't air in the May-October 1969 rerun cycle, and we also know that one week was skipped over during the August 1968-February 1969 cycle.   So it stands to reason that 1-5 was also skipped in August 1968, and I highly doubt it was one of the four weeks that aired in May 1970.

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #177 on: July 13, 2013, 02:16:51 AM »
As I've said, I've managed to get access to some of the documents digitized in the Fred Rogers Center at St. Vincent College, but please don't ask me to post the actual scanned documents.  Also, only a small portion of the archive has been digitized so far, so just because a document is in the archive doesn't necessarily mean I have access to it.

I'm not sure if there really was a preemption on 8/1/1969.  Various TV listings sources still list an episode on that date. That may have just been a mistake on the schedule.
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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #178 on: July 13, 2013, 10:06:00 AM »
No worries here - I appreciate anything you do post here, and understand that there is a limited to what you have access to, as well as what you are allowed to post.

Regarding the lack of an episode on 8/1/1969 and the skipping of episode 69, it could possibly be an error.   But I wonder if it's possible that this list only pertained to a specific station or group of stations that pre-empted the show on 8/1/69.   In that case, I'd guess that the stations that didn't have the pre-emption aired episode 65 on August 1, then episodes 66-69 on August 4-7.

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Re: MRN Schedule 2/19/68 - 9/4/09
« Reply #179 on: July 15, 2013, 10:28:46 PM »
I found a Chicago area paper microfilm that did some episode decriptions in 1970 and it seems that after 1130 aired the first time in 1970 they aired 16-20 then 21-25 and then 26-30 but didn't find anything for the fourth week and not much else was listed for episode decriptions for weeks we don't know of. I don't see what would be controversial about episode 69 in its description for it to be skipped though.