Author Topic: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075  (Read 42133 times)

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2012, 10:21:02 PM »
Tim: Do you plan to eventually obtain these episodes?

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2012, 06:44:33 AM »
Tim: Do you plan to eventually obtain these episodes?

I don't want to count my chickens before they're hatched, but yes, at some point I hope to get ahold of these.

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #47 on: June 12, 2012, 07:46:41 PM »
I look forward to hearing about them!  I wonder if they'll have any hint as to when they last aired.  Or if there will be any obvious reasons why they stopped airing so early.  You had commented that 2 would likely not air today, since it showed Fred and Betty pointing make beleive guns at each other, and that 1014 would not air since it showed someone smoking a cigar.

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #48 on: June 12, 2012, 10:28:55 PM »

- With 1051-1055, it could be the fishing thing and/or the outdated geography.   Or maybe they simply wanted fewer operas in the rotation and preferred the more elaborately produced later ones.    Adding to my theory that pre-79's were planned to be phased out all along, perhaps 1471-1475 (Windstorm in Bubbleland) was effectively a replacement for 1051-1055.

Since Johnny Costa's mother gives Fred a meat pie in 1455, and that week aired until 1994 (and was one of the last pre-79s ever to air), I doubt that they would have banned 1051-1055 due to fishing.  Also, Tim doesn't seem to think it had any outdated geography.  As for 1471-1475 being a replacement for 1051-1055: that also seems unlikely, since there were 3 more operas after that (4 if Josephine is considered an opera), but they never banned 1121-1125, 1166-1170, or 1241-1245 (or even 1296-1300 if Josephine counts as an opera).

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2013, 04:21:01 PM »
- I can't figure out any specific reasons for 1056-1060 to have been phased out, going by the episode guides.   Maybe there were references to the previous week's opera.  Or it could just be that, judging by the descriptions, this week seemed relatively uneventful compared to much of the 1969 season.

I think one of the reasons why 1056-1060 was phased out was b/c of the alleged incident w/ Mr. Rogers and Mr. McFeely over the puzzle in 1056. Remember, the description said that Rogers was working on a puzzle, but Mr. McFeely barged in and took it away ??? before it got finished. Really weird. I don't think it was offensive, but maybe kinda weird because, even though making friends mad is not unusual, that doesn't sound like, well, Mr. McFeely.

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2013, 04:02:01 PM »
- I can't figure out any specific reasons for 1056-1060 to have been phased out, going by the episode guides.   Maybe there were references to the previous week's opera.  Or it could just be that, judging by the descriptions, this week seemed relatively uneventful compared to much of the 1969 season.

I think one of the reasons why 1056-1060 was phased out was b/c of the alleged incident w/ Mr. Rogers and Mr. McFeely over the puzzle in 1056. Remember, the description said that Rogers was working on a puzzle, but Mr. McFeely barged in and took it away ??? before it got finished. Really weird. I don't think it was offensive, but maybe kinda weird because, even though making friends mad is not unusual, that doesn't sound like, well, Mr. McFeely.

My impression is that Mr. McFeely was very different in the show's early days compared to the later years.

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #51 on: May 14, 2013, 08:57:14 AM »
- I can't figure out any specific reasons for 1056-1060 to have been phased out, going by the episode guides.   Maybe there were references to the previous week's opera.  Or it could just be that, judging by the descriptions, this week seemed relatively uneventful compared to much of the 1969 season.

I think one of the reasons why 1056-1060 was phased out was b/c of the alleged incident w/ Mr. Rogers and Mr. McFeely over the puzzle in 1056. Remember, the description said that Rogers was working on a puzzle, but Mr. McFeely barged in and took it away ??? before it got finished. Really weird. I don't think it was offensive, but maybe kinda weird because, even though making friends mad is not unusual, that doesn't sound like, well, Mr. McFeely.

Apparently, i seemed to be a little incorrect in assuming this is why 1056-1060 was pulled. According to the now-detailed article for the episode, there was a reason for Mr. McFeely taking the puzzle away. Rogers got it from a "puzzle lending service" and was apparently timed-out before he could finish. Also, unless i misread Tim's explaination, Mr. McFeely did give him a little time to finish it, but he couldn't due to the pressure he was given. So maybe he wasn't acting unusual in that episode after all.

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #52 on: July 07, 2013, 06:21:04 PM »
3. Maybe they were considered less important or less popular than other episodes?  As newer episodes were created, these were retired?

That's probably likely. I still think it's very strange for one of the banned weeks to be an opera week. They must've really disliked these episodes to have banned them.

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #53 on: July 07, 2013, 06:23:02 PM »
The other mystery is why 1396-1400, 1411-1415, 1416-1420, and 1441-1445 never aired during the 90s.  Maybe that is also wanting to remove magic.  I know that 1416 has the tooth fairy.  Also, 1411-1415 and 1417-1420 are about an energy crisis, which was more relevant in the 70s than it was in the 90s.

No, it's just 1417-1419 that had the energy crisis.

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2013, 10:22:11 PM »
"Banned" comes off as a little harsh a term for these weeks: until we know specifically why FCI took them out of the rerun package, could we just use another term?

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2013, 03:00:52 AM »
"Banned" comes off as a little harsh a term for these weeks: until we know specifically why FCI took them out of the rerun package, could we just use another term?

I thought it was too, but mitsguy explained to me a while back why that is. They definately weren't taken out my mistake because according to the Plan & Play book, 1041, 1061 and 1076 immediately came after 1035, 1050 and 1070. The thing i don't get is, there's a few possible reasons why 1036-1040 and 1071-1075 were pulled, but 1051-1060 is a real mystery. None of those episodes had any offensive/controversial content whatsoever.

And yes, you could say "pulled" if "banned" is a little harsh.

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2013, 12:01:56 PM »
"Banned" comes off as a little harsh a term for these weeks: until we know specifically why FCI took them out of the rerun package, could we just use another term?

I thought it was too, but mitsguy explained to me a while back why that is. They definately weren't taken out my mistake because according to the Plan & Play book, 1041, 1061 and 1076 immediately came after 1035, 1050 and 1070. The thing i don't get is, there's a few possible reasons why 1036-1040 and 1071-1075 were pulled, but 1051-1060 is a real mystery. None of those episodes had any offensive/controversial content whatsoever.

And yes, you could say "pulled" if "banned" is a little harsh.

I still think that one of the FCI insiders on this board should ask someone from FCI why those weeks were pulled.

As for why 1051-1060 were banned: possibly because of the fishing in 1051-1055, and because of Francois's ex-wife appearing in 1056-1060 (she was also mentioned in 1071-1075).

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2013, 10:55:13 PM »
Has anyone asked FCI when these weeks last aired and if there is any info on why they were banned?

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2017, 02:42:41 PM »
Having seen the 1051-60 on twich with all being shown, one reason both weeks stopped airing together even more f only one week was thought to have objectionable content may have been the part about Lady Elaine and Handyman Negri going to the scout jamboree in 1051 and returning in 1056 and feeling because of that one week couldn't air without the other

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Re: Episodes 1036-1040, 1051-1055, 1056-1060, 1071-1075
« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2017, 03:01:21 PM »
Why would Lady Elaine and Handyman Negri going to the Scout Jamboree be 'objectionable'?