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Title: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: rogersfan1 on May 12, 2017, 01:59:51 PM
I just found that starting Monday May 15 they will be streaming rare episodes on twitch.tv, it says the number will be 886, so will that include the four weeks of 1034-1040, 1051-1060 and 1071-1075, although by my count the number of episodes from 1968-2001 should be 895.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/11/mister-rogers-neighborhood-marathon-of-886-episode/
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: mjb1124 on May 12, 2017, 03:41:18 PM
It was confirmed that the Conflict episodes will be omitted.   That leaves four other episodes unaccounted for.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: rogersfan1 on May 12, 2017, 05:41:50 PM
I'm thinking perhaps the other four skipped episodes will be one of each from the four pre-79 banned weeks as hopefully that will be the case so we can get some definitive insight as to exactly which episode caused it to stop airing early if not when it last aired.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: MIKEBENNIDICT on May 12, 2017, 06:17:40 PM
It was confirmed that the Conflict episodes will be omitted.   That leaves four other episodes unaccounted for.
Why is that?

There's actually several pre-79's on YT.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: mjb1124 on May 13, 2017, 09:12:07 AM
http://www.post-gazette.com/ae/tv-radio/2017/05/11/More-Mister-Rogers-Neighborhood-online/stories/201705110190

This article says that the Conflict week won't air, and that "some have been lost".   Since omitting Conflict brings the total down to 890, it can be surmised that there are four "lost" episodes, hence the episode count of 886.   I guess we'll see if these are truly lost episodes, or if they were purposely omitted for content or clearance reasons.

There's more discussion on the Archive Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/neighborhoodarchive/
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: MIKEBENNIDICT on May 13, 2017, 02:39:49 PM
How were some episodes lost?

From what I've read on various websites they were all preserved and I suppose Rogers himself along with the FRC made sure they were.

So what happened?
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: mjb1124 on May 13, 2017, 03:20:38 PM
Maybe some were deemed not to be in good enough quality to stream, or they had difficulty during the digitization process.   Or again, maybe they're not actually missing, but were banned due to content or clearance issues.   The suggestion that they may skip one episode from each of the "Banned" weeks makes sense, but we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: mitsguy2001 on May 14, 2017, 10:34:14 AM
This is interesting!  I've never heard of Twitch.  Is it something available to the general public?  Can all of us watch episodes if we want?  Are we allowed to download episodes to watch later (I'm guessing not).  Is this a free service or a pay service.

One thing that bothers me is that it mentions them streaming "consecutively".  Does that mean that we have to start with 1 and watch everything in order?  If so, it will take forever to get to later episodes, since none of us are going to have the time to watch the entire series.

Hopefully somebody can post which 4 episodes are missing.  I agree that it's likely 1 episode from each of the 4 banned weeks.  Or, another theory is that 2 of them could be 1468 and 1469, since they were not on Amazon.

I also wonder whether these will be original or edited versions?  Perhaps we can finally figure out what was edited from episodes such as 1101 and 1121.  And perhaps it can shed some light on the skip in the losing credits in 1066-1070 (does that happen in any other episodes)?

Even if we have to start from the beginning and watch them consecutively, that might at least help us find out more about how episodes such as 9 and 21 were edited or re-shot.

And what episodes aired any once?  Contrary to popular belief, Conflict aired every year from 1983 to 1996.  Maybe 1-5 aired only once, but wasn't that available on Amazon for some time now?  I'm fairly sure that all other episodes have at least 1 other confirmed airing, and all of 1001-1460 has the trolley closing version, implying that they all reaired.

I'm sure that not everything in those articles was accurate.  One of them said that Fred was 73 when he died, but we know he was actually 74.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: MIKEBENNIDICT on May 14, 2017, 03:27:57 PM
http://www.twitch.tv/misterrogers
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: bjdwsm on May 14, 2017, 11:03:06 PM
I'm guessing the color shows will likely be the the edited versions, although my guess is that there isn't too much of a subtext behind the editing aside from technical issues (improving picture quality or transitions on close-ups of Picture Picture) and Costa using the opportunity to create some new music.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: mjb1124 on May 15, 2017, 02:20:44 AM
This is interesting!  I've never heard of Twitch.  Is it something available to the general public?  Can all of us watch episodes if we want?  Are we allowed to download episodes to watch later (I'm guessing not).  Is this a free service or a pay service.

It's free, you just have to sign up.  bjdwsm already posted the link.

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I also wonder whether these will be original or edited versions?  Perhaps we can finally figure out what was edited from episodes such as 1101 and 1121.

I'm guessing it'll be the same prints Tim used for his recaps, meaning the 1969-75 episodes would be mostly the 1976 edits with a few original prints here and there.

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And what episodes aired any once?  Contrary to popular belief, Conflict aired every year from 1983 to 1996.  Maybe 1-5 aired only once, but wasn't that available on Amazon for some time now?  I'm fairly sure that all other episodes have at least 1 other confirmed airing, and all of 1001-1460 has the trolley closing version, implying that they all reaired.

I'm sure that not everything in those articles was accurate.  One of them said that Fred was 73 when he died, but we know he was actually 74.

Yeah, I don't think that part is accurate either.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: mitsguy2001 on May 15, 2017, 08:11:06 AM
I have a bad feeling that this won't let us choose specific episodes, but will start with Episode 1 at 3:00 today, and air the episodes continuously.  That means that it is almost impossible to watch a specific episode unless you tune it at the exact time it airs.  Since none of us have the time to watch every episode, and none of us are available 24/7, it seems that this will be mostly useless.  It also seems that it will be difficult to figure out what the 4 missing episodes are, unless somebody watches 24/7, which, again, I don't think any of us have the time to do.

Hopefully I am wrong.

In any case, I hope that people post comments on the episodes that they do watch, and if anybody figures out what the missing episodes are, I hope that they are posted.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: wawbeast44 on May 15, 2017, 09:03:15 AM
My computer will be recording the entire stream, so we will get every episode that is lost. I have over 500gb saved up so im fine.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: mitsguy2001 on May 15, 2017, 11:06:11 AM
My computer will be recording the entire stream, so we will get every episode that is lost. I have over 500gb saved up so im fine.

How do you do that?  Is it legal?  Can you post which episodes are skipped, and maybe answer some of the questions that we've had about the episodes that air?  Thank you.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: JAO93 on May 15, 2017, 11:14:32 AM
It was confirmed that the Conflict episodes will be omitted.   That leaves four other episodes unaccounted for.

That's a shame but at least we'll get to see most of the other episodes. I'll be happy to see what's airing when I check in and out of Twitch throughout the marathon.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: MIKEBENNIDICT on May 15, 2017, 01:56:46 PM
Wonder why they wouldn't show all of them as is?

Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: mjb1124 on May 15, 2017, 09:22:15 PM
We're up to episode #14 so far.   There were some technical difficulties early on, but it seems like they've gotten things together. 
  Oddly, episode #1 cut out the model neighborhood and TV house pan, and started with MR singing "It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood".    But otherwise, the episodes so far seem to be unedited, including the NET ID at the end.    I haven't caught every single episode, but judging from how things are timing out, it doesn't seem like anything's been skipped yet.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: LadyElaine on May 16, 2017, 10:00:50 AM
Episode 39 now Toots!
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: mjb1124 on May 16, 2017, 11:55:25 AM
Heads up:  We're on episode 42 now, so it looks like the first opera (Babysitter Opera) will air around 2 PM EST/11 AM PST.
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: LadyElaine on May 16, 2017, 12:59:14 PM
...I'm Taking Care of You...
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: ASchuelke on May 16, 2017, 02:26:20 PM
Just wanted to stop in and say HELLO to everybody who's enjoying the MRN marathon!
I've been watching it on my TV in the living room with my Roku.  Hope everybody with a Roku knows you can do that -- it's a MUCH better experience than watching it on a computer screen with other distractions.  I got home from work last night around 8:00, and I'm off today, so it's been on ever since.  I even fell asleep on my couch last night (I don't have a TV in the bedroom)... it was so nice to wake up this morning to MRN! 

What are you all looking forward to the most?  For me, these 1968 episodes are wonderful (they're ALL wonderful) ... but I'm especially looking forward to the 1969 episodes, and the 1974/1975 episodes.  One reason I'm looking forward to the 1974/1975 episodes (among many other reasons) is because that's when Johnny Costa added the drums and bass to the everyday soundtrack.  A heads up to any of you jazzheads:  if you haven't seen any 74/75 episodes in awhile, be sure to pay attention to the closing credits, ESPECIALLY on the Friday episodes from those years.  The Costa trio was absolutely SMOKIN' hot and swingin!

Toot toot!
Aaron Schuelke

Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: MIKEBENNIDICT on May 16, 2017, 08:58:53 PM
Wish I could stay home till this marathon's over.

Just think of everyone who wants to do the same thing though I hope no one's doing it.

I've noticed in the spots in between the shows some of the people are young and not around when these early episodes were produced and a good deal of them only saw the pre79's.

Makes me wonder what they think of MRN in its infancy?
Title: Re: Epioodes streaming online
Post by: ManFromMars22 on May 19, 2017, 01:19:54 PM
The marathon is beyond awesome! I've been getting to see pre-79 episodes that I've been trying to get my hands on for a long time. If this is a dream, don't wake me up!